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ravurian ([personal profile] ravurian) wrote in [personal profile] domarzione 2019-03-11 07:24 am (UTC)

In fairness, I didn't say 'should', and I didn't say 'all-female', either, precisely because of your point about Carol's experience with menfolk having incorrect and irrelevant opinions about her capability and capacity. Surely there has to be some middle-ground, though, where wishing for fewer men in a comic book movie featuring aliens and superpowers and so on doesn't get pooh-poohed because realism and erasure lol.

[Speaking of which, the lack of white people in Wakanda is a valid in-universe point, but the lack of white people in the movie Black Panther, which also went to other locations outside Wakanda (including the US, the UK, and the Far East, which is a location choice that emphasises this decision) reflects an out-universe real-world choice to minimise the number of white faces on screen, and that was a good thing for the film's storytelling. You don't need a lot of white people actively oppressing black people to tell a story in which the history of exploitation and oppression in Africa, the Americas, and the UK, is evoked and discussed. There's a difference between backgrounding - which is about placing emphasis and focus elsewhere - and erasure, which I think is what you're implying I meant? I profoundly disagree that foregrounding other stories is about getting back at groups which are usually and predominantly front and centre. Wishing for stories that significantly foreground other groups is not about erasure or revenge, in my opinion, and that absolutely isn't what I meant with wishing for fewer men overall].

Anyway, don't get me wrong: I enjoyed this movie! I am also, I think, permitted to wish for it to have gone a bit further. I didn't mean to harsh any squee...

[ETA: re: this whole comment, I debated deleting it because even I was exasperated at myself on rereading it. I am not entirely unaware of the irony of me, a man, wishing for anything at all relating to this movie, which is not talking to me, and I do rather wish that I had done what I meant to do, which is listen to people talking about it rather than opining. I'm so sorry <facepalm> ]

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